And so it begins again……

The War protesters/anarchists want us all to believe theirs is a peaceful movement to end the war and bring our troops home! In doing so American Soldier’s lives and Iraqi civilian lives will be saved. They remind us at every turn that Iraq is nothing but another Vietnam. This is a position I have adamantly opposed until now. However my reasons for saying this are completely different from theirs.

The true similarities between the War in Iraq and the War in Vietnam are only now beginning to rear their ugly head in the “quagmire” that is American politics. The Democratic Party has been “bought” by the American Socialists/Communists who tried to carry their momentum over from the 60’s effort and failed. But now they have managed to gain control of the Democratic Party. They are also staging antiwar “peace” rallies all over the country using people they bus in, flooding elected officials with emails and phone calls on the eve of Congressional votes on legislation “progressive” [politically correct for socialists] Congressional members have written, and targeted Congressional members that are not for their agenda to “persuade them to vote their way.

This effort is nothing new. However, presently they are rapidly building up the pressure and by recruiting people, training them and sending them to key locations, making it appear that regions previously against the legislation are now for that legislation. It is a tactic used in an European country where a small bunch of people send out members throughout the country, start protest marches, etc. and make it look like the entire population supports their agenda. They staged protests and then used the emotion of the moment to inflame the non supporters. In the end, they managed to overthrow the elected government and set up a Communist government!

Another element has been added to their effort. The anarchists have come forward into the open. They are defacing Memorials to our fallen soldiers from past wars. At least they were until the Gathering of Eagles was formed. However even the “Eagles” could not prevent what happened in Beeville, Texas. In that small town, a Memorial was built to those veterans lost in “4” past wars. That Memorial was completely destroyed! The local police are not doing anything about the destruction as they say they can’t prove it wasn’t an accident. What I want to know is don’t they watch CSI? Don’t they have a CSI team? If they don’t, then why don’t they invite one in from a nearby city that does have one? Well, important as this issue is, it is not the purpose of this post.

The people in Beeville have asked for help to rebuild their memorial. They need help raising the funds. The Eagles have begun a Campaign along with many other Veteran groups across the country to help the people in Beeville rebuild their memorial through a fund raising. I already gave what I could. It wasn’t much but every dollar, nickel, or whatever helps. Over at Tanker Brothers, Brat has all the information in his post, “What Americans are made of….”. He also has important links. A website has even been setup to help with the fund raising. This is a call to arms for all veterans and active duty personnel. Let’s show these antiwar anarchists that this time “we will not just go away blindly into the night.” This time we will stand tall, side by side, and defend and protect our Memorials, our Troops, and our nation.

If they destroy our Memorials, we will rebuild them. If their war protest group is one thousand, ours we will be equal or greater. You see we have learned how to play the game too. If you threaten us with death – we will only become more determined. So comments like this one on our forum at Gathering of Eagles will not make us be silent:

DCRage Says:
May 15th, 2007 at 4:53 pm I was in the Black Bloc, and I have to say that your GOE showing was not impressive at all, in fact it hardened the resolve of the leftists to end this war and all of you with it. All you succeeded in doing was making us feel bad for you. But that won’t stop us or our mission. When we got back from the rally, we had a good laugh about the whole thing and which one of you was the most ridiculous. I’d also like to thank all of you for the wonderful pictures you took of us, though it’s a shame you didn’t post any of our little flag display. That really pissed you off, didn’t it? We could see it in your eyes how much that burned. And you know what we did? We laughed. We laughed because we know all your rage against us won’t ever stop the flames from engulfing flag after flag, and we know that it won’t stop our ultimate victory either. So congratulate yourselves now, but when you can’t avoid it anymore, the flames will still be there. Then all that will be left is the pitiful, dead ashes of the flag and this sick system, and a new one will rise. We are in your city, your suburbs, we may even be right next door. We have time, yet we waste none. Today it might be a brick through a recruitment station window, but there is so much more ahead. We are growing, training, and learning. You are simply getting old. Your time is limited, ours is just beginning. So keep your red white and blue flying high, because soon the Red and Black banners will be at your doorstep. What will you do then?

Now, I ain’t the brightest bulb on the tree, but I’m pretty sure threatening to terminate veterans and vandalize buildings are quite against the law. But before any of us jump to conclusions, I invite concerned citizens to contact our friend directly at

The above is from the Gathering of Eagles news letter emailed to me. Such intimidation was common in the 60’s. Not any more! You see, we are not afraid to die for freedom. Threats will only serve to inspire us to increase our voices. We are proud to serve, protect, and defend our nation, our Constitution, and our President. Who do you serve? Who do you protect? Who do you defend?

Our troops have a code of behavior that they follow when they are engaged in combat. That code was recently reiterated by General David H. Petraeus:

Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, and Coast Guardsmen serving in Multi-National Force-Iraq:
Our values and the laws governing warfare teach us to respect human dignity, maintain our integrity, and do what is right. Adherence to our values distinguishes us from our enemy. This fight depends on securing the population, which must understand that we—not our enemies—occupy the moral high ground. This strategy has shown results in recent months. Al Qaeda’s indiscriminate attacks, for example, have finally started to turn a substantial proportion of the Iraqi population against it.

In view of this, I was concerned by the results of a recently released survey conducted last fall in Iraq that revealed an apparent unwillingness on the part of some US personnel to report illegal actions taken by fellow members of their units. The study also indicated that a small percentage of those surveyed may have mistreated noncombatants. This survey should spur reflection on our conduct in combat.

I fully appreciate the emotions that one experiences in Iraq. I also know first hand the bonds between members of the ” brotherhood of the close fight. ” Seeing a fellow trooper killed by a barbaric enemy can spark frustration, anger, and a desire for immediate revenge. As hard as it might be, however, we must not let these emotions lead us—or our comrades in arms—to commit hasty, illegal actions. In the event that we witness or hear of such actions, we must not let our bonds prevent us from speaking up.

Some may argue that we would be more effective if we sanctioned torture or other expedient methods to obtain information from the enemy. They would be wrong. Beyond the basic fact that such actions are illegal, history shows that they also are frequently neither useful nor necessary. Certainly, extreme physical action can make someone “talk;” however, what the individual says may be of questionable value. In fact, our experience in applying the interrogation standards laid out in the Army Field Manual (2-22.3) on Human Intelligence Collector Operations that was published last year shows that the techniques in the manual work effectively and humanely in eliciting information from detainees.

We are, indeed, warriors. We train to kill our enemies. We are engaged in combat, we must pursue the enemy relentlessly, and we must be violent at times. What sets us apart from our enemies in this fight, however, is how we behave. In everything we do, we must observe the standards and values that dictate that we treat noncombatants and detainees with dignity and respect. While we are warriors, we are also all human beings. Stress caused by lengthy deployments and combat is not a sign of weakness; it is a sign that we are human. If you feel such stress, do not hesitate to talk to your chain of command, your chaplain, or a medical expert.

We should use the survey results to renew our commitment to the values and standards that make us who we are and to spur re-examination of these issues. Leaders, in particular, need to discuss these issues with their troopers—and, as always, they need to set the right example and strive to ensure proper conduct. We should never underestimate the importance of good leadership and the difference it can make.

Thanks for what you continue to do. It is an honor to serve with each of you.

General, United States Army


h/t Michael Yon

Too bad that these antiwar anarchists and protesters don’t feel the need for such a code for their own conduct as their exercise their right of free speech! The only code they seem to have is riding on the coat tails of the freedom and rights fought for and protected by others while they spread their ideology of socialism, revolution, hatred, and the destruction of our Constitution, our nation, and all we stand for.


~ by devildog6771 on May 22, 2007.

9 Responses to “And so it begins again……”

  1. I am glad you don’t have a fondness for Jane Fonda. However, she is another whole issue all by herself! I served four years in the USMC, as did my sister while my brothers served in the Army as MP’s and paratroopers in the 82nd.. My dad is a decorated WWII veteran. I also enjoyed my service. I disagree I have radicalized anything about military service.

    However, I will continue to speak out about what is going on in our politics, whether we are at war or not. This isn’t just about the military. The military issue could be completely removed from the picture and I would still speak out! I have spent the last three years reading and researching this. Thomas and the internet are loaded with sources. I will never again blindly follow a political figure.

  2. My politics don’t subscribe to Jane Fonda.

    The military is a big socialist system. Not expressing opinion either way, but personally I think you’ve radicalized the term beyond what it actually means.

    I was in the Army for five years. I loved it. I also loved combat, and so did my teams, and so did the Marines we worked with.

  3. For your information I have been a Democrat all my life. Not any more. If you don’t know about the parties I mentioned then maybe you might want to rad about them as I have. I know vote for whoever can do the job.

    You obviously have never been in the military or you would know “soldiers do not like war!” Socialism/Communism is not a compatible ideology with our Democratic system!
    If you prefer ignorance to knowledge then that is your choice. I prefer to never again blindly support “any” cause until I know who or what I am supporting.

    I also know from first hand knowledge what these people’s goals are. Jane Fonda herself a member then and now of this movement publicly said, “I wish all Americans could see how great Communism is, then you’d get on your knees and pray for it or words to that effect.” As for whether or not you are marginalized into this “group,” I don’t know you well enough to make that distinction. However , this is not my only post on the subject. The answer you are after is in many of those posts.

    Take a cold shower or something.

    Frequently remarks of this nature indicate a closed mind, ignorance, or someone who already knows the answer to their questions; but enjoys baiting people.Which are you?

  4. I read that article and I assume you mentioned it to reinforce your idea that there’s a subversive movement trying to game the system. Are you afraid of political awareness and political action? It sounds like it. Republican PACs have been gaming the system for years now while the Democrats sat dumbfounded. Now the Dems have organized a little better while the Republicans have fallen away from their true conservative values. It’s called politics, not subversion. Take a cold shower or something.

  5. No, I don’t know anything about the parties you mentioned. I’ll read more about it. But does my anti-Iraq occupation stance put me in league with them, in your mind? Or are we all lumped together, marginalized into this big radical group you speak of?

    The whole “war as a last resort” thing is cute but probably not truly believed by most of the combat units. My old bosses said now was the best time to be a soldier, certainly better than the peace-time periods like in between the first Gulf War and this one. I’d hope that our combat units are constantly itching for a fight. That’s what they do.

  6. 1.] Sleep with dogs and you get fleas!
    2.] Crowds react with a crowd mentality. The “sponsors” of the anti war protest are A.N.S.W.E.R. and World Workers Party. I have read their goals to make America the new leading Socialist/Communist nation in the world replacing the former USSR. Have you? They created the Progressive Caucus, a fringe group, in the House of Representatives to help accomplish this. They are now working on the Senate. Their puppeteer and loyal supporter is Bernie Sanders.
    3.] A.N.S.W.E.R. and U.F.P.J. both are umbrella groups under the main Socialist organization in America. They, a fringe group, have a tiered plan for taking over America.
    4.] They, the fringe group, incite violence through the inflaming rhetoric they use at these levels in their meetings and rallies and marches throughout the nation.
    5.] Right now they are targeting Recruiters, bases,and our troops. Their/ the fringe group’s campaign has been escalated for the summer draw down to the elections in November.
    6.] The point of the General’s speech is we must not allow ourselves to become like the enemy. There are standards even in warfare. He was simply reminding them of something every soldier is taught from day one of service. We won’t decapitate the enemy like they surely would us. We won’t spit on protesters as they are spitting on us! As I said too bad the other side has nmo moral standard!
    7.] Though we are considered war mongers, we hate war. It is a last resort. Strangely enough, those, the fringe group, sponsoring and running this whole “peace” movement never stop looking for the “revolution!” Go figure!! Tom Hayden: “How to End the War in Iraq”

  7. I called it marginalizing because you’re lumping extremists together with anyone who protests the Iraq occupation. Do you think that all war protesters want to deface memorials? What do socialists have to do with throwing bricks through recruiters’ windows? What does Petraeus’s excellent missive have to do with your post at all? Petraeus gave a rallying cry for staying true to our virtues and morals, even when stressed by combat. Don’t betray yourself by lumping all protesters in with the fringe wackos.

  8. There is nothing marginal about Socialism or Communism! If I believe in calling a spade a spade1 If you want to color it in “politically correct “jargon, do so. But like the old saying goes, trite though it may be, “A Rose by any other name is still a Rose!” Crap still stinks, no matter what you do to disguise it!

  9. That’s it, radicalize and marginalize your opponent.

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